Stephan and Nicolas discuss the evolution of Bitcoin banking, the role of Galoy, and the impact of regulatory changes on the Bitcoin ecosystem. They explore the differences between Bitcoin and fiat banking, the potential for local and global Bitcoin banks, and the future of Bitcoin custody and lending. 

The discussion also touches on the challenges posed by regulations and how recent changes may open up opportunities for banks to offer Bitcoin services. Nicolas also discusses Lana - a platform designed for banks and financial institutions to offer Bitcoin-backed loans. He explains the complexities of managing collateral and risk in Bitcoin lending, the importance of proof of reserves, and the role of custodians in the banking process. 

Takeaways

🔸Bitcoin banking can differ significantly from fiat banking.

🔸The Lightning Network has evolved towards a more centralized model.

🔸Bitcoin banks can operate without needing permission, unlike fiat banks.

🔸There is potential for a million Bitcoin banks globally.

🔸Regulatory challenges impact the adoption of Bitcoin by banks.

🔸Recent regulatory changes may encourage banks to offer Bitcoin services.

🔸Custody of Bitcoin is becoming a key focus for banks.

🔸Local Bitcoin banks may have advantages over global ones.

🔸The repeal of SAB121 is a significant step for Bitcoin banking.

🔸Bitcoin collateralized lending is an emerging opportunity. Lana is a landing platform for Bitcoin-backed loans.

🔸Managing collateral risk is crucial in Bitcoin lending.

🔸Proof of reserves should be a standard practice for Bitcoin banks.

🔸Banks can choose their custodians for Bitcoin management.

🔸Lana aims to expedite the market entry for banks.

🔸Traditional banking software may struggle with Bitcoin integration.

🔸Galoy is developing various Bitcoin banking products.

🔸The regulatory environment is influencing banks' Bitcoin strategies.

🔸El Salvador's legal tender law for Bitcoin has been repealed.

🔸Bitcoin adoption in El Salvador has led to increased tourism.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(01:08) - How did Galoy start?

(04:24) - LN and Bitcoin wallet evolution over time

(08:12) - Bitcoin banking vs. Fiat banking

(12:15) - Local vs. Global Bitcoin banking models

(17:09) - Sponsors

(18:42) - What is the future of Bitcoin custody and lending?

(22:14) - Why are traditional banks hostile towards Bitcoin?

(28:15) - How does repealing SAB121 help Bitcoin?

(30:19) - What is Lana?

(34:54) - The importance of Proof-of-Reserves in Bitcoin lending products

(40:57) - How market-ready is Lana?

(42:08) - Sponsors

(43:07) - How is Lana different from Traditional banking software?

(45:08) - Building Galoy: Bitcoin’s banking infrastructure

(48:12) - What is the future of Bitcoin in traditional banking?

(50:08) - Insight on the repeal of El Salvador’s Bitcoin legal tender law

(55:05) - What is the impact of Bitcoin on El Salvador’s economy?

Links: 

• https://x.com/nicolasburtey 
• https://x.com/galoymoney
• https://x.com/GaloyMoney/status/1887496202591052194  
• https://www.galoy.io/lana-bitcoin-loans-platform 

Sponsors:

• Bold Bitcoin
• CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)

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