This week we sit down with Roger Valdez, the Director of Seattle for Growth, a partnership advocating for creating more housing of all types, in all neighborhoods, for all levels of income. He is a self-proclaimed lobbyist for developers and evangelist for growth and free-market economics. In this episode we discuss Valdez's "slice the pie thinner" vs. "bake more pies" analogy and how Seattle's citizens must learn how to balance their morals with their own self-interests.