Andy and Anders have an intimate discussion about the history autism, starting in the coffeehouses of Red Vienna and ending in the imageboards of collapsing modernity. With a history rooted in eugenics, fascism, and neoliberalism, Anders questions the origins and continued necessity of the category while advocating for increased understanding and compassion for neurodivergency.

Follow Anders Lee and listen to Pod Damn America

Read his article "I Don't Believe in Autism": https://www.madinamerica.com/2019/02/i-dont-believe-in-autism/

Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN): https://autisticadvocacy.org/

Check out Aspergers are Us on Netflix and HBO

Opening song: Autistic Youth - Stones

Closing: Autistic Youth - Not for Me