Giles Swan, a long-time UK regulator and crypto policy expert, joins Jordan Walker to unpack how the FCA approaches Bitcoin and the wider crypto landscape. With over 20 years in regulation, Giles shares insights from inside the system, including his work at the FCA and the evolving approach to digital assets.They discuss the thinking behind UK crypto rules, why spot Bitcoin ETFs remain out of reach for retail investors, and how the regulator balances innovation with investor protection. 00:00 - Introduction to Regulation and Crypto 03:04 - Giles Swan's Journey into Crypto 05:51 - FCA's Perspective on Bitcoin and Crypto 08:20 - The Regulatory Process Behind FCA's Decisions 11:02 - Consultations and Stakeholder Engagement 13:53 - The Digital Pound and CBDC Discussion 16:54 - Investor Education and Risk Awareness 19:15 - Comparing Crypto and Gambling Regulations 23:37 - Navigating Regulatory Frameworks in Crypto 24:58 - The Need for Dynamic Regulation 27:15 - Understanding ETFs and Investor Access 28:10 - Barriers to Bitcoin ETFs in the UK 30:15 - The Future of Crypto Regulation in the UK 31:59 - Holistic Approaches to Investor Access 33:52 - Education and Understanding in Retail Investment 35:37 - Comparing UK and US Regulatory Approaches 37:20 - Pushing for Progressive Regulation 39:08 - The Role of DeFi in Future Regulations 40:16 - Engaging with Regulators for Better Outcomes Follow Giles:💼 LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/giles-swan📬 Email: giles@swanfs.comFollow Jordan:💬 X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JayW132⁠💼 Linkedin: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/💡 Got an idea for the podcast or feedback? Email:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ hello@bitcoincollective.co📬 Read our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not meant to represent financial, trade or investment advice.Inside the FCA: How UK Bitcoin Rules Are Really MadeAvailable now on YouTube and all podcast platforms.