In this episode Dre and Em circle around Gavin de Becker’s groundbreaking book The Gift of Fear—a guide to recognizing intuition as a survival tool.

Dre shares the deeply personal story of her childhood in New York City, where she lived under the shadow of a stalker for over a decade. This haunting experience shaped her understanding of fear, safety, and self-trust. Through years of sitting in circles with women who carry their own survival stories, Dre has become devoted to exploring the many ways we heal, reclaim our narratives, and transform trauma into strength.

*This episode contains strong language, discussion of childhood trauma, including experiences of stalking and feeling unsafe. If these topics feel sensitive or activating, consider listening with support—and, above all, take care of yourself.