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In episode 94 Zac interviews author, coach, creative, and youth minister Stephen Ingram about leadership and establishing organic systems in youth ministry that are sustainable enough to outlive a youth pastor. Hear the 20 years worth of wisdom and insight from an author who has lived it and now works to help other student pastors glimpse a new vision of youth ministry leadership.Show Notes: after9.show/94 Win Stuff, Free Entry! after9.show/contest

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