Are there risks involved when systems are becoming complex? Have you taken a new approach to evaluate the new risks appearing when moving into the digital world? Meet Fenna van de Merwe has led the writing of the White Paper from DNV called Closing the gap in an era of transformation. It intends to guide maritime stakeholders to control and mitigate these risks and put them in a better position to make informed decisions about achieving and maintaining smarter and carbon-neutral shipping. Fenna is driving the message of ripping down the silos. Collaboration is the new thing, the more unexpected, the better. We will all benefit from sharing knowledge and working together; that is the maritime industry's new era. Listen to this episode, download the White Paper, and contribute to the discussion about the maritime industry's future! Please include me; I am @lenagothberg in most channels online. Thank you for listening.