On Episode 3 of the Katie Halper show, we talk to Jelani Cobb of the New Yorker about the sliding scale definition of racism, which makes it so easy for people to claim they're not racist. Pablo Benson Silva talks about the Puerto Rican debt crisis, Giovanni Zelko and Andrew Kirell talk about Islamophobia. And Gabe Pacheco and I talk about our night with Jimmy "The Rent is too damn High" McMillan. Plus, Gabe has a thing for blue-eyed gorillas and Katie floats a brown-eyes-only guest policy.