In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim welcome Martin Kuppinger, Founder and Principal Analyst at KuppingerCole, for his fifth appearance. The discussion delves into the evolving intersection of AI and identity, emphasizing the critical need for reliable identity verification as technology advances. The conversation also touches on the future of identity systems, including the potential of decentralized identity solutions and the role of AI in enhancing identity management. Martin shares insights on the European identity landscape, promoting reusable identity verification and highlighting emerging trends such as policy-based access and natural language interfaces. The episode wraps up with travel tips for Berlin and a look ahead at the European Identity and Cloud Conference (EIC) 2025. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI and Identity 02:09 Welcome to the Identity at the Center Podcast 02:15 Upcoming Events and Personal Anecdotes 06:18 Guest Introduction and Main Discussion 07:03 Identity Verification Trends and Challenges 10:04 The Future of Identity Verification 23:27 Enterprise Use Cases and Solutions 28:05 AI Agents and the Future of SaaS 28:59 Introduction to Martin the Chatbot 29:23 The Role of AI in Enhancing Search Functionality 31:05 AI's Impact on Various Industries 31:49 Challenges and Limitations of AI 34:10 The Future of AI in Identity Management 40:40 Leadership Compass for Access Governance 45:28 Microsoft's Strategy in Identity and Security 56:19 Travel Tips for Germany 01:03:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Connect with Martin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinkuppinger/ The 2025 Identity Fabric and IAM Reference Architecture: https://www.kuppingercole.com/research/an80978/the-2025-identity-fabric-and-iam-reference-architecture Webinar Recording: Identity Fabric and Reference Architecture 2025: Future-Proofing your IAM Access may require registration and maybe a KC membership (for the report). Information about KC Memberships: Membership Packages | KuppingerCole European Identity and Cloud Conference 2025 - Use code idac25mko for 25% off: https://www.kuppingercole.com/events/eic2025?ref=partneridac Connect with us on LinkedIn: Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/ Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/ Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com Keywords Identity Verification, AI, EIC 2025, Digital Identity, Trust, Decentralized Identity, User Experience, Onboarding, Security, Technology Trends, AI, identity management, access governance, data extraction, future trends, Germany travel tips, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Martin Kuppinger