The Cogill's embrace the complexities of controversial director Terrence Malick's new film, "Song To Song," set to the backdrop of the Austin music scene starring Ryan Gosling, Natalie Portman, Michael Fassbender, and Rooney Mara. They also celebrate the importance of independent film festivals, like the Dallas International Film Festival (DIFF2017), where you can find some out of the way cinematic gems.

Wine expert Hayley Hamilton Cogill pairs Austin music with wine made just down the road in the Texas Hill Country, Fall Creek Vineyards, influenced heavily by New World and Old World traditions. The Cogills wrap the conversation with insight into wine country travel, noting that when you visit a region, find the out of the way, small production winemaker instead of always going for the obvious. Like attending film fests, you may find a true treasure.