“The age of the idea guys has begun.” Justin & Gigi vibe about Zig. Articles mentioned: LLMs as a tool for thought by Amelia Wattenberger Micropayments and Mental Transaction Costs by Nick Szabo How our interfaces have lost their senses by Amelia Wattenberger Talks mentioned: The Art of Bitcoin Rhetoric by Bitstein Books mentioned: Human Action by Ludwig von Mises Working in Public by Nadia Eghbal In this dialogue: nak  Files SyncThing (and how it BitTorrent Sync became Resilio Sync)  Convention over configuration  Changes & speciation  File systems as sources of truth  Vibe-coding shower thoughts  Inspiration and The Muse  Justin's LLM setup  Tony's setup (o1-pro as the architect)  Being okay with paying for LLMs  Anthropomorphising LLMs Dialog, rubber-duck debugging, and the process of thinking  Being nice and mean to LLMs Battlebots & Gladiators Hedging your bets by being nice to Skynet Pascal's Wager for AI Thinking models vs non-thinking faster models Sandwich-style LLM prompting, again (waterfall stuff, HLDD / LLDD)  Cursor rules & Paul's Prompt Buddy  Giving lots of context vs giving specific context  The benefit of LLMs figuring out obscure bugs in minutes (instead of days)  The phase change of fast iteration and vibe coding  Idea level vs coding level  High-level vs low-level languages  Gigi's "vibeline"  Peterson's Logos vs Vervaeke's Dia-Logos  Entering into a conversation with technology  Introducing MCPs into your workflow How does Claude think?  How does it create a rhyme? How does thinking work?  And how does it relate to dialogue? Gzuuus' DVMCP & using nostr as an AI substrate Language Server Protocols (LSPs) VAAS: Vibe-coding as a service Open models vs proprietary models What Cursor got right What ChatGPT got right  What Google got right Tight integration of tools & remaining in a flow state LLMs as conversational partners The cost of context switching  Conversational flow & how to stay in it  Prompts VS diary entries  Solving technical vs philosophical models  Buying GPUs & training your own models  Training LLMs to understand Zig  Preventing entryism by writing no documentation  Thin layers & alignment layers  Working in public & thinking in public  Building a therapist / diary / notes / idea / task system "The age of the idea guys has begun." Daemons and spirits  Monological VS dialogical thinking  Yes-men and disagreeable LLMs  Energy cost vs human cost  Paying by the meter vs paying a subscription  The equivalence of storage and compute  Thinking needs memory, and memory is about the future  Nostr+ecash as the perfect AI+human substrate  Real cost, real consequence, and Human Action  The cost of words & speaking  Costly signals and free markets  From shitcoin tokens to LLM tokens to ecash tokens  Being too close to the metal & not seeing the forest for the trees  Power users vs engineers  Participatory knowing and actually using the tools  Nostr as the germination ground for ecash  What is Sovereign Engineering?  LLVM and the other side of the bell-curve  How nostr gives you users, discovery, mircopayments, a backend, and many other things for free  Echo chambers & virality  Authenticity & Realness  Growing on the edges, catering to the fringe  You don't own your iPhone  GrapheneOS  WebRTC and other monolithic "open" standards  Optimizing for the wrong thing  Building a nostr phone & Gigi's dream flow  Using nostr to sync dotfile setups and other things  "There are no solutions, only trade-offs"  Cross-platform development  Native vs non-native implementations Vitor's point on what we mean by native  Does your custom UI framework work for blind people?  Ladybird browser & how to build a browser from scratch  TempleOS  Form follows function & 90's interfaces  Lamentations on the state of modern browsers  Complexity & the downfall of the Legacy Web  Nostr as the "new internet"  Talks by Ladybird developer Andreas Kling Will's attempt of building it from scratch with Notedeck & nostr-db Justin's attempt with rust-multiplatform  "If it doesn't have a rust implementation, you shouldn't use it." Native in terms of speed vs native in terms of UI/UX  Engineer the logic, vibe-code the UI  From Excalidraw to app in minutes  What can you one-shot?  What do you need to care about?  Pablo's NDK snippets  7GUIs and GUI benchmarks for LLMs "Now we're purpose-building tools to make it easier for LLMs"  "Certain tools really make your problems go away." Macros and meta-programming  Zig's comptime  UNIX tools and pipes  Simple tools & composability Nostr tools for iOS & sharing developer signing keys  Building 10 apps as one guy  Simplicity in a community context  Most people are on phones  Most people don't install PWAs  Zapstore & building our own distribution channels Web-of-trust and pushing builds quickly  Improving homebrew by 10x  (Micro)payments for package managers  Guix and bitcoin-core  Nix vs Guix  Reproducible builds & web-of-trust  Keet vs "calling an npub"  Getting into someone's notifications  Removing the character limit was a mistake Recorded at 889,812.