Kip Berman of The Natvral - and formerly The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - joins me for a comprehensive life analysis. We talk about subjects including(but not limited to): becoming a father, moving to New Jersey, booking shows at his university ping pong room in Portland, working at call center with pre-paid calling cards, being a local news reporter, the further importance of pre-paid calling cards in The Pains' existence, first UK tour with Manhattan Love Suicides, the affect of that tour, being influenced by older Glasgow bands and indie pop that was happening at the time, first Euro tour memories, everything that was going on around them in New York, Crystal Stilts, Vivian Girls, being close with his grandparents, Fairport Convention, Richard Thompson, Bob Dylan, Billy Bragg, making Tethers with Andy Savours and Black Country, New Road.

Press photo credit: Remy Holwick

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Songs: The Natvral 'Why Don't You Come Out Anymore?', Cock Sparrer 'Working'

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