CW: This episode contains discussions of mental health and suicide. If this episode has raised any issues for you, help is available through Lifeline on 13 11 14 or via their website lifeline.org.au.

Osher Günsberg and Audrey Griffen met on-set at The Bachelor, where Audrey was filling in for his makeup artist. After a confusing courtship, and an "equally difficult to read" proposal, Audrey and Osher have now been married for 6 years and share a 3 year-old son, Wolfie. They open up about getting help with their parenting, how Audrey has helped Osher, and Osher shares a hilarious metaphor for trying to conceive later in life.

LINKS 

• Follow Osher Günsberg on Instagram @osher_gunsberg.
• Follow Audrey Griffen on Instagram @audreygriffen.
• See Osher live in Sydney and Melbourne this March/April.
• Listen to Osher's podcasts, Better Than Yesterday, and DadPod.
• Buy Osher's book, Back After The Break.
• Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo. 
• Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo. 
• Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

CREDITS 

Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo. 
Guests: Osher Günsberg and Audrey Griffen.
Managing Producer: Elle Beattie. 
Producer: Amy Kimball. 
Editor: Adrian Walton.

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au. 

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