Starling Tribune - Season 8 Edition – “Purgatory” Review (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST257
The Starling Tribune Reporters SP and Chris review the Arrow finale season seventh episode “Purgatory” with the help of Michelle’s notes. The reporters discuss the final Arrow pre-Crisis episode including the return of Yoa Fei, Billy Wintergreen and Edward Fryers; the effective CGI use in the episode; why SP’s knives are better than Stephen Amell’s knives, speculate on who is going to teach Mia how to slap water, Lyla’s transformation into Harbinger, how a path for Diggle to become the Green Lantern was missed, speculation on how Roy’s arm will be replaced, if we thought we wasted our time with the Flash Forwards, and Oliver’s great final moments with Mia and Williams. The duo also prepare themselves for Crisis by discussing the seven year build up to Crisis, the confusing nature of the pre-crisis cut scene, Chris expands a popular Monitor fan theory, discussing some of Marc Guggenheim last minute pre-crisis news, and what would be change for the better for fans post crisis.
Episode: “Purgatory” [Season 8 Episode 7]
Air Date: Tuesday, December 3, 2019
Director: James Bamford
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18x Arrow / 1x Supergirl
Writers: Rebecca Bellotto
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10x Arrow
Rebecca Rosenberg
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2x Arrow
Arrow
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating
01 Starling City 15-Oct-19 0.84
02 Welcome To Hong Kong 22-Oct-19 0.77
03 Leap Of Faith 29-Oct-19 0.76
04 Present Tense 5-Nov-19 0.62
05 Prochnost 19-Nov-19 0.74
06 Reset 26-Nov-19 0.79
07 Purgatory 3-Dec-19 0.83
Legends Of Tomorrow
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating
Supergirl
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating
01 Event Horizon 6-Oct-19 1.26
02 Stranger Beside Me 13-Oct-19 0.97
03 Blurred Lines 20-Oct-19 0.92
04 In Plain Sight 27-Oct-19 0.95
05 Dangerous Liaisons 3-Nov-19 0.78
06 Confidence Women 10-Nov-19 0.8
07 Tremors 17-Nov-19 0.79
08 The Wrath Of Rama Khan 1-Dec-19 0.87
The Flash
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating
01 Into the Void 8-Oct-19 1.62
02 A Flash of the Lighting 16-Oct-19 1.27
03 Dead Man Running 22-Oct-19 1.38
04 There Will Be Blood 29-Oct-19 1.48
05 Kiss Kiss Breach Breach 5-Nov-19 1.19
06 License To Elongate 19-Nov-19 1.29
07 The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 1 26-Nov-19 1.17
03 The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 2 3-Dec-19 1.32
Black Lightning
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating
01 The Book Of Occupation: Chapter Two: Birth of the Blackbird 7-Oct-19 1.16
02 The Book Of Occupation: Chapter Two: Maryam’s Tasbih 14-Oct-19 0.63
03 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Three: Agent Odell's Pipe-Dream 21-Oct-19 0.61
04 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Four: Lynn's Ouroboros 28-Oct-19 0.52
05 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Five: Requiem for Tavon 11-Nov-19 0.71
06 The Book of Resistance: Chapter One: Knocking on Heaven's Doo 18-Nov-19 0.62
07 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Two: Henderson's Opus 25-Nov-19 0.65
08 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Three: The Battle of Franklin Terrace 2-Dec-19 0.60
Batwoman
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating
01 Pilot 6-Oct-19 1.86
02 The Rabbit Hole 13-Oct-19 1.45
03 Down Down Down 20-Oct-19 1.22
04 Who Are You? 27-Oct-19 1.29
05 Mine Is A Long And A Sad Tale 3-Nov-19 1.16
06 I'll Be Judge, I'll Be Jury 10-Nov-19 1.09
07 Tell Me The Truth 17-Nov-19 1.01
08 A Mad Tea-Party 1-Dec-19 1.01
Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters
- What was the overall theme? What was the link to the episode’s name?
- Back to Lian Yu
- Learning to live in the now
- Instead of being stuck in limbo, chose life
- Fight scenes and stunts
- Plane hit by missile
- Fyers on island
- Oliver and Laurel
- Laurel takes out guy w/sword
- Edward Fyers and Billy Wintergreen
- Oliver catches arrow - Yao Fei!
- Fyers camp
- Oliver and Yao Fei spring traps
- Yao Fei - patience; uses sunlight reflected off compass to burn rope
- Oliver to Fyers
- Oliver not alone; superhero lineup (minus Roy)
- Device doesn’t work first time
- Need a specific DNA code; Oliver has to come back
- Big fight; guns, explosions, arrows; slo-mo moments; Diggle and Oliver back to device
- DNA sequence is Lyla’s; device does get rid of dead people
- Lyla has to go
- Time Travel / Crisis
- Flashforward
- Future Team Arrow
- Mia
- Upset at Dad; hero first, dad second
- Goes after Dad
- William
- Has to build the thing
- Admits to pushing Dad away b/c thought he wouldn’t lose Dad; don’t let last moments be in anger
- Builds weapon; island energy
- Gives Roy the hosen, who gives it back
- Connor
- Parents create Knightwatch
- Missions sent parents on many trips
- Oliver Queen / Green Arrow
- VO about returning to island, purgatory
- Has to convince others that Monitor is ok
- Energy spikes on island
- Has to tell kids his fate
- Fyers on island - given a new lease on life
- I have to go after Fyers; Yao Fei - don’t get distracted
- Yao Fei - you chose to avoid going back to family; you need to breathe, Oliver; you need to say good-bye; I didn’t get to say good-bye to Shado
- You live w/children now
- Apologizes to kids
- Activating the device will end the dead people
- William: I’ve forgiven you; hugs
- Diggle - please track down Felicity and tell her to contact William; best man I’ve ever known
- “Every mission has an end”
- Good-bye moments
- Mia: you being a hero is why you weren’t in my life
- Island made him angry; island changed him; all moments brought him her
- Mia, you’re going to create your own stories (spin-off reference)
- John Diggle / Spartan
- Confronts Lyla; Monitor claimed he saved her from blast in Afghanistan
- Protecting family
- We always have a choice
- Hard for him to accept Oliver isn’t going to make
- Lyla / Harbinger
- Brought kids to island; have to build a weapon
- Build weapon to survive Crisis
- Lyla - now I am a Harbinger of what’s to come
- Laurel / Black Siren
- Parenting advice
- Thea Queen
- Dinah Drake / Black Canary
- Knows how to fly a plane; brings Rene, Roy and plutonium
- Rene Ramirez / Wild Dog
- Hurt
- Roy Harper
- Arm pinned; Diggle and Connor try to free his arm
- I pick amputation; Connor knows how (comic book)
NEXT EPISODE
Link to Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLAd-G42w8&feature=youtu.be(Date: 3 Dec 2019)
Episode: “Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One” [Supergirl: Season 5 Episode 9]
Air Date: Sunday, December 8, 2019
Summary:The Monitor sends Harbinger to gather the worlds' greatest heroes - Supergirl, The Flash, Green Arrow, Batwoman, White Canary, The Atom and Superman - in preparation for the impending Crisis. With their worlds in imminent danger, the superheroes suit up for battle while J'onn and Alex recruit Lena to help them find a way to save the people of Earth-38.
Director: Jesse Warn
Writers: Robert L. Rovner (story by) & Derek Simon (teleplay by) & Marc Guggenheim (story by)
IMDB link: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9419518/?ref_=ttep_ep9
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