There are many design build firms out there, but what is design manage, and could it work for you?

In today’s podcast, I interview Josh Gillow, the host of the Outerspaces Podcast, who has been in the outdoor living business for over 25 years. Josh grew from doing a design build model into a design manage model. He’s much happier now, and shares what’s he’s learned with other landscape professionals in coaching programs, his podcast, and more. 

Check out today’s podcast to hear: 

• how to grow your business during bear markets, 
• how to handle sales conversations with clients now that interest rates have made money more expensive
• And what does it mean to be a marketing company that also does landscaping 

Full transcript at: https://landscapersguide.com/podcast/

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