Here is an interview I wanted to bring you for quite some time with Keith Latinen, vocalist from the band Empire! Empire! (I Was A Lonely Estate) and owner of Count Your Lucky Stars. I didn't know him at all, but within 10 minutes we were discussing playing in a band with your wife, how one defines success and when does a band make the next "move" up. A very revealing chat from a band that doesn't do a ton of interviews. Brought to you in conjunction with Propertyofzack.com

Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.