Ray Hollenbach from StudentsOfJesus.com joins us to talk about Discipleship Philosophy and Leadership Transitions in a 200church. This is a brand new first time guest - a pastor's coach, college prof, and small church lover! Ray is a delightful man, who transitioned new leadership into his church after serving as lead pastor for 15 years, and has stayed in the church as a member! You are going to love this guy... Jonny and I do!