It's time for our daily chat with KCBS Insider Phil Matier.

Backers of an effort to recall Oakland Mayor Sheng Thao say they have gathered enough signatures to put the measure on the ballot. Phil, one of the leaders of the recall said Thao won by a small percentage and a number of ballots were disqualified due to confusion over ranked choice voting. 

For more, KCBS Radio's Bret Burkhart and Patti Reising spoke with KCBS Insider Phil Matier.