Today Doug opens the container with author and beaver enthusiast Ben Goldfarb.

Doug begins the episode discussing our obsession with roads. While there is a lot to love about the highways that take us to amazing places, the world is undoubtedly suffering because we've paved in so much of them. The topic of roads is timely given the Trump administration's rescinding of the roadless rule threatens to open 58 million acres of national forest to road building, posing significant risks to habitats and species.

Doug is then joined by author Ben Goldfarb, who has written about road ecology and why beavers matter. Doug & Ben address the underpinnings of conservation, advocating for a shift towards recognizing the right of nature to exist independently.

Together they underscore the necessity of preserving roadless areas as essential components of a sustainable future.

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