Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Honor Thy Fathers (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #152

The Official Arrow and Green Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network Covering DC Comics and CW Based DC Comic TV Shows

Episode: “Honor Thy Fathers” [Season 5 Episode 21]

Air Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2017

Director: Laura Belsey

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0069513/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

3x Arrow | 1x Blindspot | 4x Criminal Minds

Writers: Marc Guggenheim

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4

14x Arrow | 8x Legends | Singularity (video game)

Sarah Tarkoff

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3582666/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5

5x Arrow | 6x Vixen | 1x Witches of East End

Promo: http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/05/04/cody-rhodes-arrow-honor-thy-fathers-trailer-photos/

Weekly Ratings

Arrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17 1.68

11 Second Chances 1-Feb-17 1.91

12 Bratva 8-Feb-17 1.61

13 Spectre Of The Gun 15-Feb-17 1.66

14 The Sin-Eater 22-Feb-17 1.54

15 Fighting Fire with Fire 1-Mar-17 1.60

16 Checkmate 15-Mar-17 1.53

17 Kapiushon 22-Mar-17 1.38

18 Disbanded 29-Mar-17 1.55

19 Dangerous Liaisons 26-Apr-17 1.36

20 Underneath 3-May-17 1.36

21 Honor Thy Fathers 10-May-17 1.65

22 Missing 17-May-17

23 Lian Yu 24-May-17

Legends Of Tomorrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01

02 Justice Society of America 20-Oct-2016 2.83

03 Shogun 27-Oct-2016 2.71

04 Abominations 3-Nov-2016 1.75

05 Compromised 10-Nov-2016 1.77

06 Outlaw Country 17-Nov-2016 1.85

07 Invasion 1-Dec-2016 3.39

08 The Chicago Way 8-Dec-2016 2.00

09 Raiders Of The Lost Art 24-Jan-2016 1.74

10 The Legion Of Doom 31-Jan-2017 1.78

11 Turncoat 7-Feb-17 1.89

12 Camelot/3000 21-Feb-17 1.64

13 Land Of The Lost 7-Mar-17 1.54

14 Moonshoot 14-Mar-17 1.34

15 Fellowship of the Spear 21-Mar-17 1.72

16 Doomworld 28-Mar-17 1.59

17 Aruba 4-Apr-17 1.52

Supergirl

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17 2.65

10 We Can Be Heroes 30-Jan-17 2.35

11 The Martian Chronicles 6-Feb-17 2.4

12 Luthors 13-Feb-17 2.52

13 Mr. & Mrs. Mxyzptlk 20-Feb-17 2.24

14 Homecoming 27-Feb-17 2.17

15 Exodus 6-Mar-17 2.16

16 Star-Crossed 20-Mar-17 2.07

17 Distant Sun 27-Mar-17 2.21

18 Ace Reporter 24-Apr-17 1.80

19 Alex 1-May-17 1.75

20 City of Lost Children 8-May-17 1.88

THE FLASH

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17 2.68

11 Dead Or Alive 31-Jan-17 3.06

12 Untouchable 7-Feb-17 2.94

13 Attack on Gorilla City 21-Feb-17 2.78

14 Attack On Central City 28-Feb-17 2.87

15 The Wrath of Savitar 7-Mar-17 2.52

16 Into The Speed Force 14-Mar-17 2.39

17 Duet 21-Mar-17 2.71

18 Abra Kadabra 28-Mar-17 2.39

19 The Once And Future Flash 25-Apr-17 2.67

20 I Know Who You Are 2-May-17 2.69

21 Cause and Effect 9-May-17 2.71

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
  • Ollie’s father accused of crime
    • First instinct - Dad didn’t do this
    • Realizes he did
    • Rewatches goodbye video - be better than father and do good for city
  • Chase wants to improve Dad’s bioweapon
    • Works with Sampson to detonate bioweapon
    • Seems to be crushed when Ollie says Dad thought he was crazy
  • Rene has a chance to be a Dad again
    • Epic fail - jerk
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • Chemical plant
    • Guns
    • Curtis knocks a guy out
  • Diffuse the bioweapon
    • Dinah and Rene on roof
    • Diggle to roof, starts shooting; Dinah bo staff, Rene guns
    • Rene strangled by Sampson; Canary cry; Diggle rope gun
    • Curtis diffuse bioweapon; “We’re terrific”
    • Ollie and Prometheus stairway fight; good work by stunt team
• Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
  
  • Anatoly!
    
    • Go back to island
    • Plan: send boat to island; Ollie lights fire; gets rescued
    • Gives Ollie fake beard and wig
    • Says Ollie and he will always be brothers
  • Plan interrupted by Kovar!
• Ollie:
  
  • Doesn’t let pros do their thing - no bomb squad; not really the best Mayor move
  • Didn’t show Thea video from Dad because he thought Thea would feel a burden
  • Thinks Dad innocent; reveals truth to press; father sacrificed himself so Ollie could have a better life
  • Becomes Green Arrow again thanks to talk with Felicity
  • Seems to be letting past go and living for himself
• Diggle
  • Support
• Thea
  • Back! Still feels like she is a hot mess
  • Watches video sent by Chase even though Ollie doesn’t want to
  • No wonder I’m a monster with the parents I have
  • Watches video from Dad
• Felicity
  • Pep talk to Ollie
  • Not a killer
  • Our lives are better with you and with you as Green Arrow
  • Move forward, live for yourself and not the past
  • Convinces Ollie to be Green Arrow again
• Quentin Lance
  • Begging Rene to step up and be a dad
• Curtis / Mr. Terrific
  • Uses Morse Code and T-spheres to save Diggle and Ollie
  • Diffuses bioweapon
• Rene / Wild Dog
  • Blows chance for getting daughter back because of the lamest of reasons
• Dinah Drake / Black Canary
  • Detective Drake on the job collecting evidence and finding suspects
  • Bo staff; Canary cry
• Artemis
  • Traitor
• Rory / Ragman
  • Walkabout
• D.A. Adrian Chase / Prometheus
  • Sends body in concrete to Ollie’s office
  • Sets trap for Ollie to be buried in concrete
  • Sets trap to get bioweapon released
  • Seems to be devastated by Daddy thinking he’s crazy
  • In Argus cell, but still has plan
  • How much free time has he had to devise such a long and elaborate plan?
  • What we know:
    • Claybourne’s son; real name Simon Morrison; knows about The List; has moves Ollie learned from Talia; learned about Flash & co and multiple universes

ARROW NEWS:

1. The CW Reveals Season Finale Synopses for Flash, Arrow & Supergirl (Date: 04 May 2017)
   “Arrow”Season 5 finale: The battle between Oliver (Stephen Amell) and Adrian Chase (Josh Segarra) culminates in a final epic battle on Lian Yu. After recent events, Oliver decides to recruit a group of unlikely allies – Slade (guest star Manu Bennett), Nyssa (guest star Katrina Law), Merlyn (John Barrowman) and Digger Harkness (guest star Nick. E. Tarabay) – to defeat Chase. However, Chase has his own army – Black Siren (guest star Katie Cassidy), Evelyn Sharp (guest star Madison McLaughlin) and Talia al Ghul (guest star Lexa Doig) – and the forces collide in an explosive season finale. “Supergirl”Season 2 finale: Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) challenges Rhea (guest star Teri Hatcher) to battle to save National City. Meanwhile, Superman (guest star Tyler Hoechlin) returns and Cat Grant (guest star Calista Flockhart) offers Supergirl some sage advice. “The Flash”Season 3 finale: With nothing left to lose, Barry (Grant Gustin) takes on Savitar (also Grant Gustin) in an epic conclusion to season three.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/the-cw-reveals-season-finale-synopses-for-flash-arrow-supergirl/
2. Arrow EP Explains Why Prometheus Keeps Getting So Personal (Date: 10 May 2017)
   During an interview last week, Arrow showrunner Wendy Mericle explained why they felt it was time for a villain who challenged Oliver on a personal, human level for the first time since Deathstroke in season 2. “It’s very personal this year, and we wanted to do that for a number of reasons,” Mericle said. “WE’ve done a different villain this year. It’s not that it’s easy, but using violence — which Chase and Oliver still do throughout the season — is sort of the go-to. What’s been interesting to see this year is to see that but the underpinnings of it being so psychological and so manipulative and so built on the underpinnings of what Chase knows about Oliver and who he is. This was the perfect storm — a great way to change up the villain and to get inside of Oliver’s head in a season that we needed to. We needed him to be reflective and talking and looking back at his past, and Chase was the perfect spark to light that fire.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/05/11/arrow-prometheus-robert-queen/
3. Arrow Season 6 To Explore the Conflicts Between Being Mayor and Being Green Arrow (Date: 10 May 2017)
   During a recent interview, showrunner Wendy Mericle told ComicBook.com that the man in the hood will still be spending his days at City Hall come 2016. Mericle said, “What’s going to be a central question for season 6 is how can he do both? We’ve played with that in the past in different ways before, but I think that the success of what he’s done in the mayor’s office and his ability to have impact is going to raise those stakes to a different level and hopefully create some great stories.”
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/05/11/arrow-season-6-oliver-mayor/
4. Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Arrow, Once, Chicago Fire, Elementary, Blindspot, The Flash, NCIS and More! (Date: 09 May 2017)
   Black Siren is a badass villain. What can we expect?—You can expect… badass villainy. “She comes back as part of Chase’s plan,” says co-showrunner Wendy Mericle. ” Chase knows exactly what he’s doing, and he understands how unsettling seeing somebody that looks like Laurel Lance is going to be for the rest of the team,” her “dad” Quentin included. “And from a writing perspective, it’s just fun storytelling. Katie Cassidy does an amazing job as Black Siren, and seeing her take on Dinah, or her take on Lance, is going to be fun.” This will be the first Arrow season finale that does not take place in Starling City. Can we expect the same kind of intense fights, or will this be more of an emotional showdown?—“Both,” answers Wendy Mericle. “One of the fun parts of having Prometheus and Oliver going toe-to-toe this season has been they’re both really great fighters, but by the same token, Prometheus is a tremendous psychological villain and he’s going to hit Oliver right where it hurts. That’s going to be a double whammy for him in the finale.”
   Link:http://tvline.com/2017/05/09/arrow-season-5-spoilers-black-siren-returns/

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

1. Supergirl EP Teases General Zod's Arrival, Comic-Inspired Appearance (Date: 06 May 2017)
   The “how” and “when” of General Zod’s arrival on Supergirl remains a mystery, but thanks to executive producer Andrew Kreisberg, at least we know what the legendary DC Comics villain will be wearing. He says that Supergirl‘s Zod (played by Smallville actor Mark Gibbon) will be sporting “a little bit of that Nazi uniform look you’d see in the comics in the ’60s. Visually, he has a different look from the mechanical armor that Man of Steel did, or the real spacey clothes Richard Donner’s version had.
   Link:http://tvline.com/2017/05/06/supergirl-general-zod-spoilers-new-season-2-interview/
2. The Flash boss on how everyone will react to that Savitar reveal (Date: 08 May 2017)
   As revealed during last week’s episode of The Flash, Savitar is actually a future version of the Scarlet Speedster, a heavily scarred Barry Allen (Grant Gustin) hellbent on killing Iris (Candice Patton) for as-yet-unknown reasons. Suffice it to say, Team Flash will certainly be shocked by this turn of events during Tuesday’s episode. “What’s interesting about people’s reactions — we certainly wrote it, but just the way the cast performs it — is it’s one thing to have seen that giant metal suit and hear that there is a version of Barry inside of it,” executive producer Andrew Kreisberg tells EW. “It’s quite another thing when you actually come face-to-face with what’s inside.” Plus, watch a trailer for the final episodes of season 3.
   Link:http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/08/flash-savitar-barry-video/
3. Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Arrow, Once, Chicago Fire, Elementary, Blindspot, The Flash, NCIS and More! (Date: 09 May 2017)
   Will we ever see Supergirl‘s Mon-El in a super suit? — T’would be nice to see the boy do his thing not in street clothes, and ideally by the Season 2 finale. When we delivered your Q to showrunner Andrew Kreisberg, he answered, “I can’t say right now, but I wouldn’t be surprised if one day you got to see that.”
   Link:http://tvline.com/2017/05/09/arrow-season-5-spoilers-black-siren-returns/

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week’s: Episode - “Missing” (Date: 11 May 2017)
Article:http://www.cbr.com/arrow-missing-trailer/

Episode: “Missing” [Season 5 Episode 22]

Air Date: Wednesday, May 17, 2017

Summary: Black Siren returns to give Chase help; Felicity plans a birthday party for Oliver; Lance is angry with Rene for missing the custody hearing about his daughter.

Director: Mairzee Almas

Writers: Speed Weed and Oscar Balderrama

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5607526/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

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