There has been a lot of discussion about transgender athletes in recent months, from Lia Thomas’s success as a swimmer at the University of Pennsylvania, to state legislatures working overtime to keep transgender kids off the field and the court. Sometimes it seems like much of the discussion is more about the politics than the people who are actually affected. We wanted to talk about transgender athletes, remembering that these are kids and young adults that in many cases are being used to score political points. Our guest is Anne Lieberman, Director of Policy and Programs at Athlete Ally, an organization whose stated mission is to educate and activate athletic communities to eliminate homophobia and transphobia in sports.

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