Lolo Jones is one of only a few Olympic athletes who has competed in both the Summer and Winter Games. She started out racing in track and field but suffered a crushing loss in the 2008 Olympics. Jones later turned to bobsledding and won’t be competing in Tokyo this year. Instead, she’s currently training to qualify for the Winter Games in 2022.

Sports Illustrated recently featured a profile of Lolo Jones written by Julie Kliegman. The piece looks at the ways Jones has used her setbacks as fuel to pivot and redefine success for herself. It also covers how the athlete has suffered intense media scrutiny throughout her career. Kliegman’s article, called “Lolo Jones’s Eternal Reinvention,” is available to read (and listen to) in Apple News+.

Jones joined Apple News Today’s In Conversation to discuss the Tokyo Games, her struggles with mental health, and her experiences appearing on reality TV.