This week Kate speaks with return guest, NYC Public Defender Olayemi Olurin, about her experiences and how people are actually effectively pushing back against white supremacy in the United States right now.

Follow Olayemi and read her work:

Twitter: twitter.com/msolurin
Substack: https://olurinatti.substack.com/
Website: https://www.olayemiolurin.com/

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Hosts: Kate Willett and Julia Claire
Producer: Genevieve Gearity
Theme Song: Emily Frembgen and Kate Willett
Artwork: Adrienne Lobl