This week Kate speaks with return guest, NYC Public Defender Olayemi Olurin, about her experiences and how people are actually effectively pushing back against white supremacy in the United States right now. Follow Olayemi and read her work: Twitter: twitter.com/msolurin Substack: https://olurinatti.substack.com/ Website: https://www.olayemiolurin.com/ Julia and Kate can be found on Twitter at @OhJuliaTweets and @KateWillett Subscribe to the Patreon here: www.patreon.com/replyguys Hosts: Kate Willett and Julia Claire Producer: Genevieve Gearity Theme Song: Emily Frembgen and Kate Willett Artwork: Adrienne Lobl