Following the cowardly shooting of DCI John Caldwell and the threatening statements from senior members of paramilitary gangs, things in the North seem febrile. Joining me to discuss what is happening on the ground in the affected communities are Shrapnel co-host, Sam Mcilwaine and journalist and co-facilitator with the Civic Initiative Northern Ireland, Emma DeSouza. We discuss the politics, the societal issues, the NI Protocol deal, the Good Friday Agreements 25th year anniversary and we ask how do we move forward when a noisy minority seem to want to drag us back? Please join us at patreon.com/tortoiseshack