Rishi Sunak isn’t much good at interviews. Sir Keir Starmer isn’t that much better. It follows a pattern of politicians become less and less willing to take part in political interviews, which they see as increasingly pointless, all risk and no gain. We ask, does it matter? And why does our democracy lose, as a result?

And interest rates rose for again- now at a 15 year high.

Torsten Bell joins Lewis to explain where it leaves households and Rishi Sunak’s re-election chances.

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