The Premier of NSW, Chris Minns, joins Betoota Talks this week in an effort to see if he can learn a thing or two from our humble outback utopia. In a rare lengthy sit down, Minns spoke with Clancy and Wendell about a variety of topics likes housing, transport, sobriety, ice baths and of course, Taylor Swift. Have a listen. Betoota on Instagram Betoota on TikTok Produced by DM PodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.