Derrick Barnes and Gordan C. James have been working together for some time now. You might know one of the two New York Times best-selling picture books Crown: Ode to the Fresh CUt & I'M Every Good Thing.

In this chat we get personal. Both creators share thoughts about raising Black children, spending time with their partners, and what Black Joy means to them. Not only do both Gordan and Derrick talk about art, yet they dig inside their lives outside of the amazing work they do for literature.

This is definitely a podcast you do not want to miss.

Gordon C James:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/GordonCJamesArt
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gordoncjamesfineart/
Website: https://www.gordoncjames.com/

Derrick Barnes
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Author_DDB
Website: https://derrickdbarnes.com/

CROWN
I AM EVERY GOOD THING: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/594506/i-am-every-good-thing-by-derrick-barnes-illustrated-by-gordon-c-james/
CROWN: https://www.amazon.com/Crown-Fresh-Denene-Millner-Books/dp/1572842245