Today I chat with Stanley and Nicole. From living in a minivan, starting a bakery, building a permaculture homestead in the suburbs, and even a crypto project these folks are great to chat with. Join us and see where are conversation goes.

Find Stanley and Nicole here:

https://esanen.info

https://youtube.com/channel/UCI9qeuUBnGjbBBA9_uiXtVA

https://flote.app/user/esanen

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