As England look to make their mark at the Rugby World Cup, on this episode Simon is joined by a member of the most successful English rugby side of all time. The 2003 World Cup winner and a leader who was inspired by tragedy.

Lawrence Dallaglio was a one club man, a Lion and an England great who was once described by Warren Gatland as ‘the best captain he had ever worked with’. Lawrence joins the show to discuss his life and career which contained success and scandal in equal measure, whilst telling us the mistakes England have made which means they’ve failed to replicate the success of 2003.

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Warning: this episode contains language that some people may find offensive.