Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger for the second time on the DarkHorse Podcast. They discuss censorship, the intelligence apparatus, and political disagreement with decency.

Find Shellenberger on Substack: https://public.substack.com/

Find Shellenberger on Twitter: https://twitter.com/shellenberger

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(03:57) Sponsors

(09:07) Twitter files and free speech

(23:00) Information governance board and Renée DiResta

(31:27) Conspiracy theories and UAPs

(35:41) Renée DiResta and Sam Harris

(52:15) Elon buying Twitter

(55:10) COVID

(59:20) FBI whistleblowers and Anti-Semitism

(01:16:20) Data manipulation

(01:22:26) Back to FBI whistleblowers

(01:32:15) Wrap up

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