In this episode of the WiLD Conversation Podcast, Dr. Rob McKenna sits down with Dr. Alexis Fink—organizational psychologist, people analytics pioneer, and trusted leader—for a conversation that’s as grounded as it is visionary. Dr. Fink opens up about her recent transition out of a senior role as Meta VP of Analytics and Workforce Strategy—not as a retirement from the work she loves, but a graduation into the next chapter of her calling. Together, we explore how to prepare successors without holding too tightly, how trust and measurement create clarity in chaos, and why the science of work and workers must evolve to meet the fear and fragmentation facing organizations today. With over 30 years in I/O Psychology and as the outgoing President of SIOP Society for Industrial Organization Psychology, Dr. Fink shares what it takes to build a legacy that outlives your tenure—one rooted in integrity, clarity, and compassion. Whether you’re a founder, an HR leader, or just trying to lead with intention through uncertainty, this conversation is for you. LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS Succession isn’t optional: Preparing others to lead after you isn’t a side task—it’s your most lasting leadership work. Measurement drives clarity: Defining what matters forces the hard but necessary conversations about values, strategy, and what’s possible. Trust is earned in the in-between: Especially in uncertain times, consistent action and honest boundaries build the credibility that trust depends on. Play it safe, miss the upside: Anxiety and fear limit innovation—leaders must create safety if they want boldness.   You’re not done: Leadership transitions don’t mark the end. They mark a turning point. You may leave a role, but the calling often goes with you. Listen to: The Evolution of Leadership Development here: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-xi7h8-15bbbd2   Learn more: https://www.wildleaders.org/ Download the State of Trust at Work Report : https://info.wildleaders.org/state-of-trust-report-registration-0