The one where Mandy & Kate talk about 'those' words. They get a little bit fired up, but also remember what made them cry, laugh and reflect on what made a difference.

The article Kate mentions is "Giving a Name, and Dignity to a Disability' by Dan Barry. The New York Times.

Carly Findlay's book is "Say Hello".

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