In part two of our interview with Pastor Jordan Minnich Kjesbo, we dive into questions like: What do I do if I feel like the church just isn’t working for me anymore? What are the essentials of the church? What are the markers of how close we are to the heart of God and how do we measure them? How do we view success in ministry and are our models of church driven by success?How can we try to be faithful to what God is calling us to do and, ultimately, how can we stay hopeful while still asking the hard questions?Books we referenced in the episode: Preaching as Local Theology and Folk Art by Leonora Tubbs Tisdalehttps://www.amazon.com/Preaching-Local-Theology-Fortress-Resources/dp/0800627733 What is God Like? By Matthew Paul Turner and Rachel Held Evanshttps://www.amazon.com/What-Like-Rachel-Held-Evans/dp/0593193318 Radiolab Antibodies Part 1: CRISPRhttps://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/antibodies-part-1-crispr Music from Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/your-own-worldLicense code: 1WX6GFMRRZEGMYVC