In this first episode of Season 3, I sit down near Catskill, New York where I met this next guest last year.

DeMar, who was shooting a music video at the time, had been released from Federal Prison just a couple of years before we met.

First incarcerated at the age of 12, and having spent 14 of his last 26 years in jail or prison, 38-year-old DeMar shares his journey and experiences with me.

He opens up about the police brutality he has experienced, what life was like for him in prison, the trauma he still has from his time in incarceration, how he is reintegrating back into what he calls "the free world", and he also shares his views on the prison system.

Tune in to part 2 of my conversation with DeMar where he tells me about the spiritual practice he discovered during his last sentence in Federal Prison, and the song he wrote inside about what it's like to be incarcerated.

To see photos of DeMar & I in conversation - check out my Instagram page @pipsperspective