In this era of data journalism and interactive online content, what else can people trained in writing and broadcasting do to tell their stories and reach wider audiences? Coding is one answer.

BBC data journalist Daniel Wainwright spoke to BBC News Labs engagement producer Allison Shultes, software engineer turned journalist Niko Kommenda and assistant professor in information and communication studies at University College Dublin Bahareh Heravi.

"We need to have skills to be able to crunch this data and bring different datasets together to come up with stories." – Bahareh Heravi

In this podcast you'll learn more about:

- what exactly is meant by ‘learning to code’ and what it allows journalists to do - why newsrooms are looking for hybrid journalist-coders - what all journalists need to understand in order to work with developers in a 21st century newsroom - how journalists can get started with coding

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