A little over a year ago novelist Matt Ruff (Lovecraft Country) and journalist Blake Collier reached out to us. They were doing a podcast to promote Matt's new novel, 88 Names, which is set in a world where virtual reality is a lot further along than our own. They wanted to talk about the creative side of it all with us.

It was a grand time.

Now, after a most unexpected year and two seasons of the podcast, Blake and Matt have wrapped up their show and we asked them to come on our show and talk about their journey through the immersive world -- not just the art & entertainment side, but forays into medicine and philosophy as well.

Show Notes

• The 88 Names Podcast
• 88 Names (novel)
• Serial Killer Speed Dating Bonus Episode
• The Rundown
• Crafting Immersive Part 1: Make It Physical
• The NoPro Patreon
• The NoPro Discord

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