Today we are talking about CKEditor 4 End of Life, Moving to CKEditor 5, and what you can expect from CKEditor 5 now and in the future with guest Wim Leers. We'll also cover CKEditor 5 Premium Features as our module of the week. For show notes visit: www.talkingDrupal.com/438 Topics CKEditor 4 end of life June 2023 Issues people might see if they are still on CKE4 Why a third party library and not roll our own Are there other alternatives Why did Drupal decide on CKEditor Drupal 10 moved to CKE5 How should people update Upgrade gotchas What's new in CKE5 What is on the roadmap regarding Drupal and CKE5 Is there going to be a CKE6 Native Web Components Does CKE in core affect Gutenberg Resources CKEditor 4 End Of Life Contrib Core, prioritized upstream blockers Core, all issues blocked on upstream (currently 29), if we look just at bugs there's 17 (1 of which is critical, 6 major) Drastically improve the linking experience in CKEditor 5 Drupal Image ability to opt in to SVG image uploads Native and UX https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3274635 Extended html filter Views / ckeditor custom elements Guests Wim Leers - wimleers.com Wim Leers Hosts Nic Laflin - nLighteneddevelopment.com nicxvan John Picozzi - epam.com johnpicozzi Ivan Stegic - ten7.com ivanstegic MOTW Correspondent Martin Anderson-Clutz - mandclu Brief description: Have you ever wanted to offer your content creators advanced capabilities like real-time collaboration? There's a module for that. Module name/project name: CKEditor 5 Premium Features Brief history How old: created in Sep 2022 by Wiktor Walc, although recent releases are by Wojciech (vOYchekh) Kukowski, both of CKSource, the company behind CKEditor (Wiktor was on episode 372 https://talkingdrupal.com/372) Current version available: 1.2.5 which works with Drupal 9 and 10 Maintainership Actively maintained, latest release in the past month User Guide available, link is in the README Number of open issues: 16, 8 of which are bugs Usage stats: 159 sites Module features and usage To me, the most compelling features enabled by this module are the ones that turn your Drupal WYSIWYG into a robust collaboration tool, similar to what users may be used to in tools like Google Docs or Office 365 Real-time inline comments and changes from multiple users Track changes to suggest ways the content could be improved A history of changes made in the WYSIWYG, independent of the saved Drupal revisions Tag users with @ mentions to have them notified There's also a Productivity Pack to enhance your WYSIWYG, and again some of these will be familiar to users that also use popular online collaboration tools A document outline that uses heading within your content to make navigation for moving quickly within the document Can generate a linked Table of Contents, which will automatically update as headings are added or changed Slash commands to execute actions Enhanced Paste from Office, to preserve complex incoming content structures, but with clean HTML as the result And more! Another premium feature is the ability to export to Word or PDF, and it can also restore full screen editing, a feature that didn't make the transition from CKEditor 4 to 5, as part of the open source offering Finally, it also includes an AI Assistant that provides yet another interesting way to empower your content authors to leverage AI tools for their writing, including the ability to change the style, length, or tone of selected content using pre-made prompts, or generate content with custom queries. It also works with a number of different models out of the box, so you're not restricted to ChatGPT The module is open source but using these premium features does require a subscription. The pricing will depend on the number of active users and which features you need, so if you'd like more information you can use the contact form at ckeditor.com Also worth mentioning here that the team at Palantir has released a YouTube video of an open source collaborative editor that they're calling Edit Together. It's based on the ProseMirror rich-text editor framework, and the blog where they announced it mentioned a mid-2024 release, but that was back in Jul 2023 and I haven't been able to find any updates since then