Ryan Gorman spoke with Natasha Nascimento, founding executive director of Redefining Refuge, and David Moyer, president of 13 Ugly Men. The 13 Ugly Men Halloween Party is coming up and will benefit Redefining Refuge. In this episode you'll hear about both organizations and the upcoming event. www.13uglymen.comwww.redefiningrefuge.orgSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.