Manish Jain, founder of ⁠Swaraj University⁠ and ⁠Ecoversities Alliance⁠ is this weeks guest. We spoke of alternatives to education, why education as we think of it today may be one of the root causes of the metacrisis rather than a solution for it and we spoke of reclaiming learning and knowledge. The treachery of language like 'first generation learners' and types of knowledge - spelling goat vs herding them and which is more knowledgeable for instance. We also speak of how come,outside of our culture, not everything has a price. This is a rich and deep conversation that will have you rethinking everything you knew about education.