This episode is Part 1 of a two part conversation between Jeff and Rob Tarnoviski, Lead Pastor of Bethel Fellowship - The Church at Franklin Mills, in Philadelphia PA. Rob and Jeff have been best friends for 30 years, yet have been serving in very different contexts. This episode includes some personal conversation never intended for the podcast. Finally, it seems that Jonny is a bit jealous of their friendship, who knows?! He'll get over it...