Vox's Sean Illing talks with Elizabeth Bruenig about how hard it is to forgive, how to balance our desire for justice with our humanity, and about how the age-old moral framework of forgiveness has met new challenges in the modern forum of social media.

Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox

Guest: Elizabeth Bruenig (@ebruenig), staff writer, The Atlantic

References: 

• “Not that Innocent” by Elizabeth Bruenig (The Atlantic; June 9)
• “The Man I Saw Them Kill” by Elizabeth Bruenig (New York Times; Dec. 17, 2020)

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This episode was made by: 

• Producer: Erikk Geannikis
• Editor: Amy Drozdowska
• Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey
• VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson

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