Not one but two interviews in this podcast, starting with Kevin Kaduk the head of content for the brand new CHGO Sports. Kevin talks about the new venture, how it came about, where it's going, how there's going to be a bar and he pretends to not be bothered by the fact I keep referring to it as Chuggo. Then Jon Greenberg of The Athletic comes by and we talk about Chuggo and the the lockout and how much he misses me writing for The Athletic (I thought the crying was a little bit much), and we discuss the difference between Cubs fans pre and post Theo, the lockout, Matt Nagy's house, Marquee and much, much more.