On Cathy’s final episode, hosts Felix Salmon of Fusion, Cathy O’Neil, author of Weapons of Math Destruction, and Slate Moneybox columnist Jordan Weissmann, chat with Derek Thompson, author of Hit Makers: The Science of Popularity in an Age of Distraction. They decipher what it takes to produce a hit in three major creative industries, including:Film and televisionBook publishingMusic

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