For this week's Team Human, Douglas is out on the road in Austin, Texas where he caught up with longtime friend and cyberculture pioneer, Jon Lebkowsky. Jon and Douglas first look back on the promise of the early cyber revolution, and then look forward to the ways in which those quirky fringe elements might be folded back into the work of promoting justice, solidarity, and even a bit of ambiguity... Whether manifested in platform cooperatives, consensus building tools like Loomio, or in the spirit of Occupy, Lebkowsky and Rushkoff retrieve the thread of radical potential as it has evolved from those early days of the internet.

Douglas begins today's show discussing his recent meeting with a group of billionaires whose fears of future social unrest have left them scrambling for apocalypse strategies to protect their wealth and lifestyle. Find out what the "insulation equation" is as Douglas challenges these executives to forgo the Walking Dead scenarios and join team human!

Today's episode features intro music thanks to Mike Watt. At the top of the interview is a song from Mondo 2000 creator (and Episode 31 guest) R.U. Sirius, and the closing credits feature a track from Fugazi, thanks to Dischord Records.

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