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Ryan Rogers returned the favor and hosted Ryan Fugit on his program and we dive into some new ground that hasn't been explored previously. I wanted to give a shout out to Ryan Rogers and his program and felt this was a great way to do it.

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Show Notes: 00:00 - Intro  00:20 - Guest Introduction (Choices Not Chances Podcast) 01:04 - Interview begins 03:20 - Childhood and Family life 10:11 - Coming back to the U.S. 12:32 - Living in Africa and Afghanistan 16:57 - Path to enlisting 19:43 - 4Patriots 23:05 - Deciding to become an Army Pilot 28:39 - Getting the Apache  32:48 - Flight school 41:28 - Flying the Apache 48:20 - Additional duties for a Staff Pilot 51:49 - First time downrange 58:23 - Time in Afghanistan 01:08:00 - Classified footage 01:11:20 - A bad day in Afghanistan 01:21:03 - Losing Faith 01:26:44 - Leaving the Military 01:29:30 - Time at the CIA 01:28:10 - After the CIA and Combat Story