Bryan Devendorf, drummer of The National, joins me to talk about his new record/project Royal Green - some of which songs were originally written for The National over twenty years ago. He talks about working in book publishing in New York, meeting the other members of The National, touring Europe for the first time, the birth of his first child plus much more! Including news of some more LNZNDRF material in the future.

[Editor's note: most My Bloody Valentine isn't on Spotify]

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Songs: Royal Green 'Baby You're A Rich Man', Cock Sparrer 'Working'

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