Annie and Nick talk with fashion icon turned beauty entrepreneur (and newly minted TV star) Jenna Lyons. The former president and creative director of J. Crew (she invented an entire 2000s aesthetic) speaks candidly about disentangling her identity from the preppy retailer she spent 27 years working for, her new false-eyelash venture, and the harsh reality of building a business from the ground, up (all on a HBO docuseries). Follow Jenna Lyons at @jennalyonsnyc on Instagram and shop Loveseen lashes at loveseen.com.

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