A few months ago, my friend Ben Beshear had me on his podcast Life, Money, and Living Well to discuss creativity, leading talented people, and finding purpose and mission in life. I really enjoyed our chat, and asked him if I might be able to release a part of it on the podcast. Today's episode features the first hour of our conversation. To hear the final part, where I discuss my views on retirement and productive passion, listen to the full episode here.

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