Today, on the Enneagram podcast, Makenna has a conversation with her friend and fellow minister, Erica Valerio. Both identifying as "The Performer," they are able to share the similarities and differences they each have in number 3. 

"Do I need to be liked? Absolutely not. I like to be liked. I enjoy being liked. I have to be liked. But it's not like this compulsive need to be liked, like my need to be praised." - Michael Scott (an unhealthy 3)